[Trigger warning for rape]
So last night I wrote about asshole comedian Daniel Tosh threatening a woman with gang rape in a comedy club after she opposed his rape jokes. As I was researching information for my post, I came upon Louis C.K. tweeting his support of Tosh.
Now, people keep telling me how feminist he is. And don’t get me wrong. I love that he calls out sexism, did a benefit at Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary and donated money to the Fistula Foundation. But. What. The. Fuck. Not only does he make rape jokes but he defends Tosh too?? Not cool.
So then I thought, well Louis C.K. can’t be the only one supporting Tosh’s douchebaggery. And I was right. He’s not. So I’ve compiled a list of tweets from the comedians supporting him or making light of the whole situation.
But THANK THE FUCKING SUN, MOON AND STARS!!!…I also found tweets from comedians and comedy writers (plus two badass female actors and one rocking magazine editor ) NOT supporting this and vocally opposing his bullshit. Because I’m an optimist and think people should be supported for speaking out against injustice, I’ve included those links too.
What Tosh and people supporting him don’t seem to get is that it’s not about freedom of speech or censorship or what’s funny and what’s not. Although I still contend rape jokes aren’t funny. But what’s really at the core of this situation is how we trivialize and disregard people’s pain, trauma and wounds. 1 in 4 women are raped. As I said before, Tosh crossed the line the moment he disregarded that woman’s concerns, asserted his male privilege and tried to humiliate her with a rape threat.
So why am I posting all these negative tweets? Is it just to call people out? Yes. But what’s more important is when we look at them as a collective. Then you begin to see just how prevalent and insidious rape culture truly is.
P.S. Fab blogger Amadi is also compiling a list so thank you to her for being awesome…and for reading my mind!
P.P.S. I updated this post with more comedians speaking out against Tosh thanks to Katie Halper’s The Nation post. Love it!
COMEDIANS SUPPORTING TOSH:
Louis C.K., comedian, radio host, writer, actor
@danieltosh your show makes me laugh every time I watch it. And you have pretty eyes.—
Louis C.K. (@louisck) July 11, 2012
UPDATE on 7/17/11: Louis C.K. said on The Daily Show that he does NOT support Tosh’s rape threat, that he’s a fan but didn’t know about the controversy when he tweeted to Tosh.
Jim Norton, comedian, radio personality, writer, actor
Comics are pigs for making rape jokes, but Christian Bale is a great actor for American Psycho. Everyone can go fuck themselves.—
Jim Norton (@JimNorton) July 12, 2012
RT @vworpingshit: @JimNorton Wow, didn't expect you to be a rape apologist. Disapointing.– Obviously, you've never been on a date with me.—
Jim Norton (@JimNorton) July 12, 2012
Some attention-seeking woman heckled a comedian, so if anything, she owes him an apology for being a rude brat.
#SayYoureSorryToots—
Jim Norton (@JimNorton) July 11, 2012
People should be vocally supporting @DanielTosh. Why is ok for an actor to play a rapist, but not for a comic to joke about it?—
Jim Norton (@JimNorton) July 11, 2012
Patton Oswalt, comedian, writer and actor
Wow, @danieltosh had to apologize to a self-aggrandizing, idiotic blogger. Hope I never have to do that (again).—
Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) July 11, 2012
Ugh, there was no way to win stepping into the @danieltosh razor blade swamp. Oh well.—
Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) July 11, 2012
Silver lining to the @danieltosh mess: The Laugh Factory's been forced to change its name to The Your Feelings Factory.—
Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) July 11, 2012
Sarah Silverman, comedian, actor, writer, singer
RT’ed:
An offended audience member repeating a comedian's act from memory is worse than, literally, anything.—
Anthony Jeselnik (@anthonyjeselnik) July 11, 2012
Anthony Jeselnik, comedian
An offended audience member repeating a comedian's act from memory is worse than, literally, anything.—
Anthony Jeselnik (@anthonyjeselnik) July 11, 2012
This Daniel Tosh rape joke controversy really has me second guessing some of my rapes.—
Anthony Jeselnik (@anthonyjeselnik) July 11, 2012
Dane Cook, comedian and actor
If you journey through this life easily offended by other peoples words I think it's best for everyone if you just kill yourself.—
Dane Cook (@danecook) July 11, 2012
Stevie Ryan, comedian and actor
Daniel Tosh can't make a rape joke but Eminem can have hit songs about it?
PS. AIDS jokes are funnier @DanielTosh—
Stevie Ryan (@StevieRyan) July 11, 2012
Can we all just agree that AIDS jokes are funnier than rape jokes and get over it already?—
Stevie Ryan (@StevieRyan) July 12, 2012
Doug Stanhope, comedian
' @danieltosh You're hilarious. If you ever apologize to a heckler again I will rape you. #FuckThatPig—
Doug Stanhope (@DougStanhope) July 11, 2012
Elizabeth Smart hates rape jokes but laughs at Morman & homeless jokes. Her abductor, the opposite.—
Doug Stanhope (@DougStanhope) July 11, 2012
Opie Radio, Opie and Anthony radio show on Sirius
To all the idiots! I completely support Daniel Tosh being a comic in a comedy club! Even if it means rape jokes! @danieltosh—
opie radio (@OpieRadio) July 11, 2012
RT @della98_: Rape isnt funny at all and I don't understand why u would even think that it is something to joke about. ME: GO AWAY BIRDBRAIN—
opie radio (@OpieRadio) July 12, 2012
RT @TheLostTales: Rape isnt funny.Maybe U should talk 2 the victims & see how funny they find those jokes. ME: Way to dumb it down PEA BRAIN—
opie radio (@OpieRadio) July 12, 2012
Doug Benson, comedian and actor
Maybe Daniel Tosh was confused about where he was. He wouldn't have offended anyone over at the Rape Factory. #ThisTweetWillBeDeletedSoon—
Doug Benson (@DougBenson) July 11, 2012
Kumail Nanjiani, comedian
Do any of you truly believe Tosh would think it was funny if a rape happened in front of him? No. None of you do. It's called sarcasm.—
Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 11, 2012
No one's saying rape is funny. We're talking about jokes. Rt @CapesandSpace: rape isn't funny. It doesn't matter what a comedian's style is.—
Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 11, 2012
Comedians have personas. Are you offended by jeselnik's rape jokes? Probably not, and you shouldn't be. Tosh uses shock and always has.—
Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 11, 2012
Tosh & Michael Richards things are completely different imo. Richards was being hateful, Tosh's was an attempt to be funny even if misguided—
Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 11, 2012
Two things about the Tosh thing. 1. It was said in the moment and not a pre written thing. 2. If you think he's pro rape you're an idiot.—
Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 11, 2012
Michael Ian Black, comedian, actor, writer
@kumailn What kind of rape? Straight-up rape or funny rape? Because he might think a funny rape was funny.—
Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) July 11, 2012
Chelsea Peretti, comedian and writer
PRO TOSH BRO—
Chelsea Peretti (@ChelseaVPeretti) July 12, 2012
COMEDIANS, COMEDY WRITERS AND ACTORS CALLING TOSH OUT:
Roseanne Barr, comedian, actor, writer, producer, presidential candidate
I can't wait to get back to stand up comedy now-hope tosh will be there when I do. #bitchplease—
Roseanne Barr (@TheRealRoseanne) July 12, 2012
And she RT’ed:
@MarthaPlimpton you are allowed to make fun and degrade women but you not allowed to call out men who make fun of and degrade women. duh!—
amanda L. (@loganX2) July 12, 2012
Martha Plimpton, actor
@danieltosh I can't wait to hear your "lynching is funny!" bit. Or would that be a little TOO dangerous?—
Martha Plimpton (@MarthaPlimpton) July 10, 2012
@boomjunior When your show consists of goading the worst in people, validating the most debased in our culture, yes. You are responsible.—
Martha Plimpton (@MarthaPlimpton) July 12, 2012
Nothing I have tweeted, ever, has brought more disgusting vitriol & hate than my tweet calling out @DanielTosh on his rape bit. Nice fans.—
Martha Plimpton (@MarthaPlimpton) July 12, 2012
To defend the indefensible as if, were you not to you'd be threatened, is the definition of cowardice.—
Martha Plimpton (@MarthaPlimpton) July 12, 2012
Meghan O’Keefe, comedian and writer
I wrote a serious. "When Rape Jokes Are Never Funny" for @HuffPostComedy huffingtonpost.com/meghan-okeefe/…—
Meghan O'Keefe (@megsokay) July 11, 2012
Colin Quinn, comedian
@danieltosh doesn't understand when random audience member yells out that something isn't funny u change the subject to what they think is!—
Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) July 13, 2012
A comedy club is supposed to be like netflix. You order it and if you don't like it then you can turn the comic off and watch something else—
Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) July 13, 2012
I also think that the way she described the @danieltosh incident was word for word what probably went down, and in context. #thatswhyiworkpg—
Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) July 13, 2012
Katie Halper, comedian, writer and Feministing contributor
Guys, Daniel Tosh was heckled. And that's the real crime.—
katiehalper (@kthalps) July 12, 2012
Jamie Kilstein, comedian and Co-Host of Citizen Radio
Lots of sad boys making this about heckling not about a comic saying he hopes a girl gets gang raped. tinyurl.com/7ko4g7j—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
2. No fan of heckling. youtu.be/8O8AEVMCcYU But I would never say that. It's a pathetic lazy reaction exposing lack of talent.—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
@ChloeAngyal as a comedian I agree with everything you are saying.—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
.@WillHam27 No asshole, she was trying to defend women. Also you don't think there was anything to say besides I hope you get raped?—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
@MattBinder at the same time (as someone who has dealt with that a lot) one in four women are raped and at some point this shit has to end—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
@MattBinder @INTPoet but saying rape is funny and I hope you get raped isn't fucking comedy. People heckle for far less than that daily—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
It's sad when you gain followers for just not making fun of rape victims. Well, welcome and sigh.—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 10, 2012
Answer – comedy is a subversive art that should be used to take down oppressors not they oppressed.—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 11, 2012
@blackcatcomedy the majority of defenders aren't asking what happened they are defending assuming he said It would be funny if you got raped—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 12, 2012
RT @ThatSusanBurke: All this talk about "rape jokes" and "women not being funny" really got me thinking that "some men really hate women"—
Jamie Kilstein (@jamiekilstein) July 13, 2012
Lena Dunham, writer, actor, director (Tiny Furniture), creator of Girls
Don't know what Daniel Tosh did but I hear he once said a rude thing about my tits so I'M AGAINST HIM (aka may have dated him in college)—
Lena Dunham (@lenadunham) July 12, 2012
You know what's fun for me, generally? Ignoring misogyny save for one flippant tweet. Love you, g'nite.—
Lena Dunham (@lenadunham) July 12, 2012
@emilynussbaum I love when you go on a twitter rampage #nosarcasmhere #itrulydo—
Lena Dunham (@lenadunham) July 12, 2012
Katey Healey Wurzburg, comedian
@jamiekilstein As a comedian, I find rape culture 100% more offensive than heckling.—
kateyhealywurzburg (@khealywu) July 11, 2012
Christina Gausas, comedian
Daniel Tosh tells audience member she should be gang raped. Enough already w/this bullshit. “@jennpozner: breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/268796256…"—
Christina Gausas (@christinagausas) July 10, 2012
Bonnie McFarlane, comedian
Corolla said women aren't funny women got mad. Tosh made rape jokes, women got mad. It's like men can't win.—
Bonnie McFarlane (@bonniemcfarlane) July 11, 2012
Bob Kulhan, comedian
This is horrible @jennpozner! @harikondabolu @janinebrito @christinagausas @myqkaplan Totally uncalled for and disturbing crap!—
Bob Kulhan (@Kulhan) July 10, 2012
Hari Kondabolu, comedian and Totally Biased writer
Hey Comics Defending Daniel Tosh's Rape Comments: Be More Human Than Comedian Today.—
Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) July 10, 2012
When you criticize dudes for being misogynist, I've learned they or their defenders love to refer to you as "PC" or various words for vagina—
Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) July 11, 2012
When people criticize what you say publicly, it's NOT them criticizing freedom of speech, but using freedom of speech to criticize you #duh—
Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) July 10, 2012
A video of me getting heckled by a baby. If you'll notice, I didn't respond by asking for the baby to be killed: bit.ly/qbw9AR—
Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) July 12, 2012
W. Kamau Bell, comedian and Totally Biased Host
For the record I'm anti-heckling & anti-rape but I'm waaaaaay more anti-rape than I am anti-heckling. #IfIHaveToChoose #ApparentlyIDo #Weird—
W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) July 12, 2012
Molly Knefel, comedian and writer
1) I'm thankful that people are criticizing rape jokes & rape culture. But comedians will, understandably, defend another against heckling.—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
2) Comedians shld be part of the convo of why rape jokes are hurtful. I hope this leads to open-mindedness rather than defensiveness.—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
3) Rape jokes are aggressive and violent, something some comics don't understand. But they do see heckling as aggressive & disrespectful.—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
4) I wouldn't want someone to heckle me if they disagreed with the premise of my joke. Also, comics shld be held accountable for rape jokes—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
5) We should act in ways that facilitate conversations. We should not tolerate rape culture. But we should also respect performers.—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
6) If this leads comics to think about rape jokes and who they may hurt, that is a very positive outcome.—
Molly Knefel (@mollyknefel) July 11, 2012
Joe Garden, comedy writer
@jennpozner Besides the obvious reasons, I'm doubly offended because rape jokes are currently the laziest manifestation of shock comedy.—
Joe Garden (@joegarden) July 10, 2012
@RealHumanBeing Valid point, but in the good ones on that list, the focus is the way people treat rape and marginalize women in our society.—
Joe Garden (@joegarden) July 11, 2012
Yes, Tosh, rape is funny, unless you know someone who has been a victim, and with one in six women in the US having BEEN RAPED, you do.—
Joe Garden (@joegarden) July 11, 2012
Lizz Winstead, political satirist, writer and Co-Creator of The Daily Show
Really? Rape is *always* funny? Wow. bit.ly/LdBNkv—
Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) July 10, 2012
By the way there is no *always* funny. Even the greatest comic has had their greatest joke bomb at least once.—
Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) July 10, 2012
You have no control over how your words will be received. Once they pass your lips you have given the audience permission to judge. 1 of 2—
Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) July 10, 2012
So the questions I ask myself with my material is, " Do I believe in it? Can I defend it? " 2 of 2—
Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) July 10, 2012
At least when Romney got booed he didn't threaten gang rape. #YepIWentThere—
Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) July 12, 2012
Andi Zeisler, Bitch Magazine Editor and Founder
Remember how simple life was yesterday when we just *vaguely* knew Daniel Tosh to be a total douchecanoe? #bettertimes thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/07…—
Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) July 11, 2012
@pattonoswalt @danieltosh A. She wasn't the blogger. B. It wasn't an apology. And C. Rape jokes = maybe funny. Rape threats = not so much.—
Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) July 11, 2012
@embeedub The whole thing is a microcosm of rape culture. She was asking for it! What was she doing there if she couldn't take it?—
Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) July 12, 2012
First Amendment refresh, Tosh edition: You have the right to say bad stuff. Others have the exact same right to tell you it's fucked up.—
Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) July 11, 2012
Love this. But, can we clarify. What Tosh did in response to the woman’s heckling was a rape-THREAT not a rape joke.
Thanks, Kate! And you are absolutely 100% right! I wrote about it not being a joke in my 1st post on it. I changed the title because you’re right…I don’t want anyone mistaking that this was a joke. Because it wasn’t.
you know what would be really funny? if someone raped you right now, like if 5 guys jsut raped you right now
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gottfried-tosh-joke/
I approved @get a sense of humor’s oh-so-clever comment (thanks for threatening me, asshole) only to show that misogynistic douchebags get a thrill – a power trip – by threatening women with rape or violence. Sadly, it happens all too often.
@Kate I don’t believe Tosh honestly wanted that woman to be raped, let’s not take it that far.
Louis C.K. is just tired of all the politically correct rhetoric, and how it erodes the comic’s
freedom to address (or joke about) certain taboo topics.
He defended Lena Dunham’s show, amidst the backlash of her not including a more racially
diverse cast.
His comment was, basically, “It’s a great show, and fuck all these overly sensitive, politically correct imbeciles, for trying to take away from that.”
Something along those lines…